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BCS 224 – The Real Reason Discounting Fails: Profit Secrets for Business Coaches

Discover Karl Bryan’s strategies for business coaches: smart discounting, building client offers, JV tips, and how to sign high-paying clients in 30 days.

Episode Summary

In episode BCS-224 of Business Coaching Secrets, Karl Bryan takes the mic solo (with Rode Dog away) to dive deep into high-impact topics for business coaches eager to attract and retain clients. Karl shares his distinctive perspective on discounting strategies, reveals a “chess over checkers” approach to business offers—using Gary Vaynerchuk’s legendary liquor store story—and unpacks practical step-by-steps for forming joint ventures, landing clients fast, and delivering tangible results in record time. The episode is loaded with actionable insights for coaches who want to elevate their sales, client satisfaction, and long-term retention.


Key Topics Covered

Unique Take on Discounting and Profit Margins

  • Karl outlines why discounting can be more damaging than helpful, explaining the real cost behind seemingly small price cuts (e.g., a 10% discount means you have to sell 33% more just to break even).

  • He reviews psychological distinctions between different promotional offers (“buy one get one,” “two for one,” etc.) and why story-driven offers outperform generic price discounts.

Gary Vaynerchuk’s $60 Million Discount Strategy

  • Breakdown of a case study: Gary Vee grew his family’s liquor store from $3M to $60M by using below-cost offers on popular products to drive foot traffic, then upselling high-margin boutique items through in-store storytelling.

Loss Leaders and Coaching Offer Design

  • Applying the Gary Vee playbook to business coaching: Use a “loss leader” (e.g., finding $100K in 45 minutes with no extra marketing) to get prospects in the door, then upsell extended engagements.

Forming Joint Ventures with Accountants (and Others)

  • Don’t use generic JV pitches. Instead, diagnose your partner’s biggest pain points and create a test-drive solution that addresses their real problems (like helping accountants avoid the tax-season rush by getting clients to check in quarterly).

How to Get a Client in 30 Days

  • Shake some trees! Karl shares his proven strategies: bold joint ventures, direct value offers, pre-pay referral rewards, and hosting local events to fill your calendar with meetings (and clients).

Getting Real Results—Compounding Singles, Not Home Runs

  • The fastest way to wow new clients is by compounding small 3% improvements in 12 core areas of their business, not just swinging for the fences with big promises.

  • Analogies to baseball (win with singles vs. swinging for home runs) and Einstein’s “eighth wonder” (compound interest) make the strategy memorable and concrete.


Notable Quotes

“If you offer a 10% discount, you have to sell 33% more to break even. Think about the logic behind that.”

“Do not confuse being busy with being successful.”

“Chess over checkers—have a strategy behind every discount, every offer.”

“Your marketing should always influence significantly more people than your client list ever could.”

“The world’s worst drug is comfort—it’s what keeps you from making the calls and shaking the trees.”

“You win with singles and good base running, not just home runs.”


Actionable Takeaways

Be Strategic with Discounting

  • Before applying a discount, work out the true break-even point—and consider if a more creative offer or “loss leader” strategy would yield better long-term results.

Leverage Storytelling to Upsell and Retain

  • Use every interaction as a chance to tell memorably differentiating stories (just like Gary Vee’s boutique beer pitch) to turn trial customers into loyal, high-margin buyers.

Solve Real Problems for JV Partners

  • When pitching accountants or other partners, lead by identifying their pain points (seasonal client crush, one-off orders, retention issues) and offer to solve them with a test-drive.

Shake Trees for Fast Results

  • Don’t wait for perfect systems. Take massive action by contacting potential clients, making JV offers, and personally delivering value to three prospects every day.

Get Results with Compound Improvements

  • Deliver tangible results for clients by making small improvements (3–5%) in 12 business areas—cost-cutting, pricing, bundling, cross-selling—that add up to huge gains.

Block Daily Lead Generation Time

  • Dedicate at least two hours a day to outreach, problem-solving, and relationship-building if you want to keep your pipeline full.


Resources Mentioned

Profit Acceleration Software™ (by Karl Bryan)

Local Legends Program

  • For running local live events and becoming the go-to business coach in your community (clients only).

The Six-Figure Coach Magazine

Networking and Referral Groups

  • BNI, local chambers, and similar business organizations for building JV partnerships and sourcing local clients.


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Karl Bryan gets clients for Business Coaches...period. He is the Founder of The Six-Figure Coach Magazine and creator of Profit Acceleration Softwarethat shows you how you can BOOST bottom-line profits of any business using the power of compounding growth without spending more on marketing. His goal is straightforward… to help coaches and consultants get more clients.

Get a demo of Profit Acceleration Software™ at focused.com.

"I created Profit Acceleration Software™ so you can BOOST bottom-line profits using the power of compounding growth without spending more on marketing."- Karl Bryan